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DHB WildCat
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:09:00 -
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I hope my opinion will make since reguarding the new Hyperion change ideas.......... ARE YOU NUTS!
Right now with similar fits the hyperion does 110 dps less than the vindi. Now you want to give it an extra Drone, and more gun DPS. WITH A REP BONUS!
When the dust settles the hyp will not only do similar DPS of a Vindicator, but also have an insane active tank bonus. Also have utility highs to kill ECM drones or neut. With full flight of heavy drones, and even some backups.
This ship is going to put the Vindi out of order. I know for me personally that if these hit the server, Im going to fire sell every vindi i have before the price drops significantly and buy up hyps.
Please relook at this ship..... Its a monster with the perposed changes. Your new changes is what the Vindicator should be, not a t1 BS. |
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:33:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote:Quote:This ship is going to put the Vindi out of order. I know for me personally that if these hit the server, Im going to fire sell every vindi i have before the price drops significantly and buy up hyps.
Please relook at this ship..... Its a monster with the perposed changes. Your new changes is what the Vindicator should be, not a t1 BS.
And the new Thorax obsoletes the Vigilant if you ignore the 90% webs.
Right..... lets compare shall we?
Vigilant -
slot layout - 5 / 4 / 6 (5 turrets)
bonuses - 75% damage / falloff and web bonus.
drones - 50 bandwith / 50 cap
Thorax -
Slot layout - 5 / 4 / 5 (5 turrets)
bonuses - 5% damage / 7.5% tracking
drones - 50 band / 50 cap
So vigi has more damage BY FAR. and ability to nano with falloff bonus or brawl with extra low slot by only really a passive option. Otherwise they are similar but vigi still better.
Now Battleships -
Vindicator -
slots - 8 / 5 / 7 (8 turrets)
Bonuses - 37.5% damage / tracking and web bonus
Drones - 125 band / 125 cap
Hyperion - (purposed changes)
slots 7 / 5 / 7 (6 turrets)
Bonuses - 10% Hybrid per level / 7.5% armor rep per level.
Drones - 125 Band / 175 cap
So - unless Im wrong ..... 8 turrets bonused one time 37.5% is similar to 6 turrets bonused at 10% per level. Not only that, but the slot layout both mids and lows are identical. Meaning you can place the same tank on both....... but wait Hyp gets an armor rep bonus too.. Making its Tank MUCH better than the vindis. Also the hyp now gets a full flight of Heavy drones, but also gets room for mediums and or lights with a larger bay. At least both have to use all highs for turrets for full DPS output....... oh wait thats right they gave the hyp an utility high slot too.
Now explain to me again just how the thorax and vigi comparison is the same as the hyp / vindi? Cause the way im looking at this is that the vigilant still has options, nano range ... or an exltra low for a bigger buffer tank. This new Hyp make the Vindi a completely obsolete piece of ****. This new hyp is broken! |
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:45:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:DHB WildCat wrote:Kahega Amielden wrote:Quote:This ship is going to put the Vindi out of order. I know for me personally that if these hit the server, Im going to fire sell every vindi i have before the price drops significantly and buy up hyps.
Please relook at this ship..... Its a monster with the perposed changes. Your new changes is what the Vindicator should be, not a t1 BS.
And the new Thorax obsoletes the Vigilant if you ignore the 90% webs. So - unless Im wrong ..... 8 turrets bonused one time 37.5% is similar to 6 turrets bonused at 10% per level. So what school did you fail basic math from? Last time I checked 6*1.5 = 9 and 8*1.375 = 11
Jesus read the damn post again. I said similar, not the exact same. So we lose 200 dps, for an extra utility high, more drones, A way better tank. Its still broken! |
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:59:00 -
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Bouh Revetoile wrote:DHB WildCat wrote:Jesus read the damn post again. I said similar, not the exact same. So ~25% is similar. Noted. And 200dps is nothing.
it isnt when you are talking Battleship DPS. Also vindi unless in fleets run 7 turrets and a smartbomb. But im sure you have more experience using a vindicator than I do. So please enlighten me with all your Vindicator knowledge |
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Posted - 2013.04.17 17:02:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:DHB WildCat wrote:Bouh Revetoile wrote:DHB WildCat wrote:Jesus read the damn post again. I said similar, not the exact same. So ~25% is similar. Noted. And 200dps is nothing. it isnt when you are talking Battleship DPS. Also vindi unless in fleets run 7 turrets and a smartbomb. But im sure you have more experience using a vindicator than I do. So please enlighten me with all your Vindicator knowledge And in a fleet the rep bonus of the hyperion means nothing.
well then the extra low slot the vindi gets would make it a better passive tank............... oh wait................. |
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